Paw
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Post by Paw on Nov 15, 2024 1:56:48 GMT -5
i figure people encounter problems while making music occasionally as we all of course do, and may need help solving them, so i am proposing a general thread of no dumb questions, 'how do i do this effect' 'how can i make this sound better' 'why is this box not doing what the box is supposed to do' 'why is this noisy' etc etc, anything related to sounds and turning them into things that tickle your ears in all forms! :3 I see no downsides to giving as many eyes to a problem as possible!
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Post by kez on Nov 15, 2024 18:21:22 GMT -5
wait this rules because I actually have a big important question (to me anyway) that i've been terrified to ask anywhere else lmfao
so I've been wanting to figure out how to make this really shrill feedback-y effect on guitar because I hear it with so many bands and I can't for the life of me figure out what pedals/plugins can make that happen lmao, I'm 100% self taught in everything I do music-wise so I always figure things out by trial and error and this is one that I can't seem to get it.
videos w/ timestamps included below, if anyone knows how to do this, please lemme know!
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2:25 (probably the best example, and embarrassing proof that I've been trying to figure this out for like twelve years lol)
I'll continue to dig around and see if I can't find a way to replicate this with my Helix LT but I think it's not knowing what this specific effect is called that just throws me lmao. Thank you for making a "no dumb questions" thread because I feel like this has been a dumb question in my brain for over a decade!
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Paw
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Post by Paw on Nov 15, 2024 19:34:35 GMT -5
wait this rules because I actually have a big important question (to me anyway) that i've been terrified to ask anywhere else lmfao so I've been wanting to figure out how to make this really shrill feedback-y effect on guitar because I hear it with so many bands and I can't for the life of me figure out what pedals/plugins can make that happen lmao, I'm 100% self taught in everything I do music-wise so I always figure things out by trial and error and this is one that I can't seem to get it. videos w/ timestamps included below, if anyone knows how to do this, please lemme know! 0:44 2:25 (probably the best example, and embarrassing proof that I've been trying to figure this out for like twelve years lol) I'll continue to dig around and see if I can't find a way to replicate this with my Helix LT but I think it's not knowing what this specific effect is called that just throws me lmao. Thank you for making a "no dumb questions" thread because I feel like this has been a dumb question in my brain for over a decade! oh this isn't dumb at all lmfao, this one's tough, it to me at least, sounds like a very controlled/rehearsed feedback the most, but idk there's def some motion to it too, lotta possibilities frankly, I'm gonna mess around and see what I can do too there, but either feedback or some kinda weird kinda technique that sounds like it, might even try just automating feedback into a DI and see what happens with a similarly dissonant chord |
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Post by wolfmulder on Nov 15, 2024 20:20:32 GMT -5
wait this rules because I actually have a big important question (to me anyway) that i've been terrified to ask anywhere else lmfao so I've been wanting to figure out how to make this really shrill feedback-y effect on guitar because I hear it with so many bands and I can't for the life of me figure out what pedals/plugins can make that happen lmao, I'm 100% self taught in everything I do music-wise so I always figure things out by trial and error and this is one that I can't seem to get it. videos w/ timestamps included below, if anyone knows how to do this, please lemme know! 0:44 2:25 (probably the best example, and embarrassing proof that I've been trying to figure this out for like twelve years lol) I'll continue to dig around and see if I can't find a way to replicate this with my Helix LT but I think it's not knowing what this specific effect is called that just throws me lmao. Thank you for making a "no dumb questions" thread because I feel like this has been a dumb question in my brain for over a decade! Pretty sure they're just holding a dissonant chord on the high strings and letting it ring out/getting the pickup close to the amp speaker. You can manipulate the frequencies in your feedback by allowing particular strings to vibrate and muting others. So like I'd put a finger over my low end strings and let the high strings ring. Feeback is a fun beast but most of what I was hearing in those timestamps was the dissonant chord. |
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Post by kez on Nov 15, 2024 23:10:49 GMT -5
oh this isn't dumb at all lmfao, this one's tough, it to me at least, sounds like a very controlled/rehearsed feedback the most, but idk there's def some motion to it too, lotta possibilities frankly, I'm gonna mess around and see what I can do too there, but either feedback or some kinda weird kinda technique that sounds like it, might even try just automating feedback into a DI and see what happens with a similarly dissonant chord I've been playing around with feedback generation to try and get close with digital pitch modulation and other fun effects and it definitely produces cool results but nothing like what I'm hearing in these songs, would love to hear what you can come up with! Pretty sure they're just holding a dissonant chord on the high strings and letting it ring out/getting the pickup close to the amp speaker. You can manipulate the frequencies in your feedback by allowing particular strings to vibrate and muting others. So like I'd put a finger over my low end strings and let the high strings ring. Feeback is a fun beast but most of what I was hearing in those timestamps was the dissonant chord. I plan on picking up a cab finally in the next few months lmao, apartment living has constrained me to my Helix LT so I can't generate feedback manually like I used to be able to but that was kinda my thought on it - definitely wanna play around with different pedals as well to try and maximize the chaos of it! |
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Paw
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Post by Paw on Nov 15, 2024 23:46:23 GMT -5
oh this isn't dumb at all lmfao, this one's tough, it to me at least, sounds like a very controlled/rehearsed feedback the most, but idk there's def some motion to it too, lotta possibilities frankly, I'm gonna mess around and see what I can do too there, but either feedback or some kinda weird kinda technique that sounds like it, might even try just automating feedback into a DI and see what happens with a similarly dissonant chord I've been playing around with feedback generation to try and get close with digital pitch modulation and other fun effects and it definitely produces cool results but nothing like what I'm hearing in these songs, would love to hear what you can come up with! Pretty sure they're just holding a dissonant chord on the high strings and letting it ring out/getting the pickup close to the amp speaker. You can manipulate the frequencies in your feedback by allowing particular strings to vibrate and muting others. So like I'd put a finger over my low end strings and let the high strings ring. Feeback is a fun beast but most of what I was hearing in those timestamps was the dissonant chord. I plan on picking up a cab finally in the next few months lmao, apartment living has constrained me to my Helix LT so I can't generate feedback manually like I used to be able to but that was kinda my thought on it - definitely wanna play around with different pedals as well to try and maximize the chaos of it! i gave it a shot doing some frankly strange things that i do not think anyone else should ever do, xwx, to try and change the feedback sound without turning on the big amp and cab lol, but ended up using a resonant lowpassed version of the mic output and fed that into and from the teeny widdle amp to 'simulate' the guitar pickup frequency response, and messed with the lowpass and amount of resonance a whole bunch, and my conclusion is that the 'pickups' change the sound of 'feedback' way more than i would have thought, but will have to test that tomorrow since my neighbors would not be happy with me making feedback noises at 9pm lol owo, but to me seems to be about getting the guitar position right to get the frequency response to emphasize whichever harmonics, reminds me just how fickle and precise something like a guitar can be :3, this was not even close though lmfao
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